October 08, 2009

Revealing a World of Bliss

Norman FIscher re-tells the famous story about Mahakashyapa on Vulture's Peak:

When Buddha was on Vulture Peak he twirled a flower before the assembly. Everyone was silent. Only Mahakashyapa smiled. Buddha said: "I have the eye treasury of the true teaching, the heart of nirvana, the true form of non-form, and the ineffable gate of dharma. It is a special transmission outside the teaching. I now entrust it to Mahakashyapa."

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Stan's picture

Glad you liked it. I mostly talk with people who would think it was utter nonsense--engineering/infotech/scientific types. I'm new to Tricycle, is there a pattern for entry?

Alan's picture

Light-hearted maya - cool!

Stan's picture

Didn't mean to be confusing, Alan, just light-hearted. Translation of #3: It all depends on context. If one's context is the ultimate 'emptiness' of all phenomena, then whatever is said is neither right nor wrong--it's just maya. If one's context is 'form', then one plays 'as if' the world is real, and in this context, logic is useful (though not ultimately "True".

Alan's picture

All teaching is "manipulative" in some way. I have no problem with this. But "shameful"? I don't see it.

Zen expects (demands) questions. You can ask about the authenticity of this story. Most agree that it is not authentic. But to the next question: does this diminish its value?

Is authenticity even the right question?

alan's picture

Can't make sense of that, sorry.

Stan's picture

Of course from a meta-absolute-nothing perspective ... how can either be wrong.

And, closer up, trees rather than forest perspective, logic is a good thing as long as one recognizes it's not the only thing.

alan's picture

Heartbreakingly manipulative and shameful. Does Mr. Fischer really think the Suttas were recorded by disinterested passers-by? And why should we trust the Lotus Sutra anyway, since anything written is always incorrect?

Jamie Whyte wrote a nice little book called "Crimes against logic". A good read.

david's picture

Wonderful perspective....