Politics and Prayer

Jerry Brown talks with Les Levine

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Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, was a candidate for the 1992 Democratic Presidential nomination. He was interviewed for Tricycle by Les Levine, an internationally known media artist and longtime Buddhist practitioner. The interview took place in September at Les Levine's studio in New York City. The art is by Les Levine, the photographs by Jeri Coppola.



Levine:
Often when you interview people who are in some way spiritual and you say to them, "Are you a Buddhist?" for example, they reply, "No." Because even though they have great curiosity about spiritual matters, they don't feel comfortable being identified with them. Do you ever have that sensation in talking to people?

Brown: Spirituality is not something you generally talk about. There are many gaps between who we are and who we want to be, between conception and experience, intention and action.

Levine: In a previous issue of Tricycle we asked you what it means to be a Buddhist, and you said, "To live a life in freedom from illusion." I wonder what, in practical terms, that could mean in our society?

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